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Kirans Cousin  
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 More options Aug 26 2006, 12:18 am
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air, rec.travel.europe, soc.culture.british, soc.culture.europe
From: Kirans Cousin <kiranscou...@no.email>
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:18:13 GMT
Local: Sat, Aug 26 2006 12:18 am
Subject: Discount air travel in Europe; London airports
Those of you who have seen my other posts (and been kindly helping too,
thanks!) will be glad to see one that has nohing to do with Asia,
Cathay, Hong Kong, AA, One World, or awards!

With the rise of discount carriers in Europe, I am contemplating a few
trips within it. I have friends in London and Milan, some link in Oslo,
other cities would be pure tourism.

A few questions:

1. If I mainly wish to use discount carriers, which is the best "hub"
city?

2. Which is the best online site to research European fares?

3. When I am in London, how do its various airports rank in convenience
for getting to/from the city? In service provide by discount carriers?

Thanks.


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 More options Aug 26 2006, 12:55 am
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From: "Iceman" <oneofc...@yahoo.com>
Date: 25 Aug 2006 15:55:54 -0700
Local: Sat, Aug 26 2006 12:55 am
Subject: Re: Discount air travel in Europe; London airports

Kirans Cousin wrote:
> Those of you who have seen my other posts (and been kindly helping too,
> thanks!) will be glad to see one that has nohing to do with Asia,
> Cathay, Hong Kong, AA, One World, or awards!

> With the rise of discount carriers in Europe, I am contemplating a few
> trips within it. I have friends in London and Milan, some link in Oslo,
> other cities would be pure tourism.

> A few questions:

> 1. If I mainly wish to use discount carriers, which is the best "hub"
> city?

London has the most discount flights, and is also the cheapest place in
Europe for flights to other continents.

But you don't need to stick to one hub - it is usually possible to
design your trip to go from hub to spoke to another hub, and so on, so
that you don't have to backtrack.

I travelled around Europe for three months using discount airlines
almost exclusively, and this was in 2003 when their route networks were
not as extensive as they are now.  I found that I could always get a
cheap flight to London at the last minute from virtually anywhere.
Getting to other places cheaply was somewhat tricker, but you could
usually find a cheap flight to a place that was at least close to where
you wanted to go.  The only flights that were more than $100 US were
Brussels-Athens and Athens-Munich.


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Bernie  
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 More options Aug 26 2006, 1:02 am
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From: "Bernie" <bef...@gmail.com>
Date: 25 Aug 2006 16:02:47 -0700
Local: Sat, Aug 26 2006 1:02 am
Subject: Re: Discount air travel in Europe; London airports

Kirans Cousin wrote:
> 1. If I mainly wish to use discount carriers, which is the best "hub"
> city?

This is more of a "where do you want to go" question as there are
several discount airlines based throughout Europe.

> 2. Which is the best online site to research European fares?

for discount fares, you need to go to the airline's website

> 3. When I am in London, how do its various airports rank in convenience
> for getting to/from the city? In service provide by discount carriers?

Discount airlines use Stansted and Luton airport. There is a dedicated
train going from Liverpool or Tottenham Hal to Stansted in 45 minutes
departing every 15 minutes or so.

The Luton train is 30 minutes from St. Pancras plus a bus ride to the
terminal


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David Bennetts  
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 More options Aug 26 2006, 1:35 am
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From: "David Bennetts" <davibenne-nos...@yahoo.com.au>
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 09:35:17 +1000
Local: Sat, Aug 26 2006 1:35 am
Subject: Re: Discount air travel in Europe; London airports

"Kirans Cousin" <kiranscou...@no.email> wrote in message

news:250820061718151909%kiranscousin@no.email...

1.  Probably London, although I understand Paris could also be considered a
hub.
2.  Try www.skyscanner.net - it will give you discount fares on a variety of
airlines.  Don't totally write off the major long established airlines
either, I recently got a fare of 1 pound (+taxes) London Heathrow to Dublin
on Aer Lingus.
3.  Depends largely on where your accommodation is in the city.  If you're
in the south then Gatwick is OK.  To the west or around Paddington is best
for Heathrow.  North for Luton and north or east for Stansted.  All have
good rail (expensive) and coach (cheaper and slower) connections.  See
www.baa.com for transport options.  A lot of discount carriers use Stansted
and Luton, but as I said previously don't rule out Heathrow or Gatwick.
London City may offer cheap flights too.

Regards

David Bennetts
Australia


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Kirans Cousin  
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 More options Aug 26 2006, 1:42 am
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From: Kirans Cousin <kiranscou...@no.email>
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 23:42:40 GMT
Local: Sat, Aug 26 2006 1:42 am
Subject: Re: Discount air travel in Europe; London airports

Bernie <bef...@gmail.com> wrote:

: for discount fares, you need to go to the airline's website

OK, my question was unclear. I meant sites like or Sidestep.com or
Kayak.com in USA that look at many airlines. They do have European data
too, but I thought a similar UK or otherwise European service might be
better for European flights.

: Discount airlines use Stansted and Luton airport. There is a dedicated
: train going from Liverpool or Tottenham Hal to Stansted in 45 minutes
: departing every 15 minutes or so.
:
: The Luton train is 30 minutes from St. Pancras plus a bus ride to the
: terminal

I'll be in London, not Liverpool. Other names don't mean much to me at
present. Is Stansted or Luton more convenient from London itself?

Thanks.


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David Bennetts  
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 More options Aug 26 2006, 2:05 am
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From: "David Bennetts" <davibenne-nos...@yahoo.com.au>
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 10:05:01 +1000
Local: Sat, Aug 26 2006 2:05 am
Subject: Re: Discount air travel in Europe; London airports

"Kirans Cousin" <kiranscou...@no.email> wrote in message

news:250820061842415896%kiranscousin@no.email...

> Bernie <bef...@gmail.com> wrote:

> : for discount fares, you need to go to the airline's website

> OK, my question was unclear. I meant sites like or Sidestep.com or
> Kayak.com in USA that look at many airlines. They do have European data
> too, but I thought a similar UK or otherwise European service might be
> better for European flights.

www.skyscanner.net

> I'll be in London, not Liverpool. Other names don't mean much to me at
> present. Is Stansted or Luton more convenient from London itself?

The trains go from Stansted to Liverpool Street Station, which is one of the
major London railway stations. NOT to be confused with Liverpool city, where
the main railway station is Lime Street.

Regards

David Bennetts


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 More options Aug 26 2006, 6:04 am
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From: Kirans Cousin <kiranscou...@no.email>
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 04:04:41 GMT
Local: Sat, Aug 26 2006 6:04 am
Subject: Re: Discount air travel in Europe; London airports

David Bennetts <davibenne-nos...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

: www.skyscanner.net

: The trains go from Stansted to Liverpool Street Station, which is one of the
: major London railway stations. NOT to be confused with Liverpool city, where
: the main railway station is Lime Street.

I should have known. :-)
Thanks!


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Ian F.  
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 More options Aug 26 2006, 8:26 am
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From: "Ian F." <wowfabgro...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 07:26:51 +0100
Local: Sat, Aug 26 2006 8:26 am
Subject: Re: Discount air travel in Europe; London airports
"Bernie" <bef...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Discount airlines use Stansted and Luton airport.

easyJet flies to 37 European cities from Gatwick, and Ryanair to four
cities in the Irish Republic.

When looking for cheap fares from London, don't rule out British Airways.
Their fares are often as cheap or cheaper than the discount carriers and
the service is better - free food, drinks etc.

> There is a dedicated train going from Liverpool

That's Liverpool *Street* station, London

> or Tottenham Hal to Stansted in 45 minutes

That's Tottenham Hale, easily accessible from central London using the
Victoria Line of the London Underground (subway).

Ian


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 More options Aug 26 2006, 8:52 am
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From: rr198...@hotmail.com
Date: 25 Aug 2006 23:52:27 -0700
Local: Sat, Aug 26 2006 8:52 am
Subject: Re: Discount air travel in Europe; London airports

it rather depends on where the OP is going , probably the largest
choice of  budget airline is stansted .
Ryanair flies to small airports , ofter a a bit distant from the main
towns, which can sometimes be more convienient ansd less prown to
airport delays,they are normally cheaper than most, but not as customer
friendly.
 Easy jet and Air berlin fly  to the larger airports, so are oftern a
more expensive. You get what you pay for.


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 More options Aug 26 2006, 12:10 pm
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From: Dave Frightens Me <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:10:29 +0200
Local: Sat, Aug 26 2006 12:10 pm
Subject: Re: Discount air travel in Europe; London airports
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:18:13 GMT, Kirans Cousin

<kiranscou...@no.email> wrote:
>Those of you who have seen my other posts (and been kindly helping too,
>thanks!) will be glad to see one that has nohing to do with Asia,
>Cathay, Hong Kong, AA, One World, or awards!

>With the rise of discount carriers in Europe, I am contemplating a few
>trips within it. I have friends in London and Milan, some link in Oslo,
>other cities would be pure tourism.

>A few questions:

Easy ones at that!

>1. If I mainly wish to use discount carriers, which is the best "hub"
>city?

Almost certainly London.

>2. Which is the best online site to research European fares?

www.skyscanner.net

>3. When I am in London, how do its various airports rank in convenience
>for getting to/from the city? In service provide by discount carriers?

In order of easiest to most difficult (IMO):

Heathrow
Gatwick
Stanstead
Luton
London City
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 More options Aug 26 2006, 12:36 pm
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From: "RAK" <rakn...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 11:36:14 +0100
Local: Sat, Aug 26 2006 12:36 pm
Subject: Re: Discount air travel in Europe; London airports

"Kirans Cousin" <kiranscou...@no.email> wrote in message

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> Those of you who have seen my other posts (and been kindly helping too,
> thanks!) will be glad to see one that has nohing to do with Asia,
> Cathay, Hong Kong, AA, One World, or awards!

> With the rise of discount carriers in Europe, I am contemplating a few
> trips within it. I have friends in London and Milan, some link in Oslo,
> other cities would be pure tourism.

> A few questions:

> 1. If I mainly wish to use discount carriers, which is the best "hub"
> city?

Maybe London but it depends where you want to go. Plus London is expensive
in general which could wipe out some of your savings on fares. And using a
continental hub city you may find that train is better than air on some
routes.

> 2. Which is the best online site to research European fares?

I use http://www.whichbudget.com/en/ which is the most complete I have seen
The downside is that for London you have to check out each of the 4
airports, it does not seem to have a London Any Airport option. It can be
easier to look up the destination (say Budapest) and find which London
airports it connects to. It also shows a full list of destinations from any
airport which can be useful.
I did not know of http://www.skyscanner.net/ which others mentioned. It does
have a London Any Airport option so is probably easier, though on one route
I checked it missed one airline compared to whichbudget.
Probably it is better to try both sites.

Also check out http://www.opodo.com/ which gives budget fares on 9 of the
major airlines such as BA, which do not show on budget airlines lists.

> 3. When I am in London, how do its various airports rank in convenience
> for getting to/from the city? In service provide by discount carriers?

Depends where in London where you start from. I'll assume from the centre,
but if you start from further out that would change things. Even from the
centre it depends which area - whether you are closest to Paddington, or the
Piccadilly line tube (for LHR), or Victoria, London Bridge, Kings X or
Liverpool St stations. Getting to one of these stations could be the hardest
bit, especially in the rush hour.
* Heathrow is west of London and is the quickest if you use the Heathrow
Express train (15 min? from Paddington), but it is expensive. By normal tube
train (Piccadilly line) about 1 hour, slower than the others. Also it does
not have so many budget flights.
* Gatwick is south and probably the furthest but has fast trains from
Victoria and London Bridge. Mostly regular airlines but also many budget
flights especially Easyjet.
* Luton is north, trains from London Bridge, Kings Cross etc. Mostly budget
airlines.
* Stansted is NE, trains from Liverpool Street. Mostly budget airlines.

I guess the last 3 take a similar time by train, also slower than Heathrow
by Express but probably quicker and more comfortable than Heathrow by tube.

There is also City airport, much closer in east London, but no budget
flights I think.

There are also a couple of others within reach - Southend, Southampton (good
train connection from London, station right by the airport), maybe others.

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